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Offline Ethan Palmer

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« on: July 04, 2009, 07:35:48 AM »
i think i may need a new front axle.. my front tires dont spin at all cant figure it out noticed it when i got stuck in mud that a jeep went though (so i knew something was seriously messed up) and i think my stearing rods are messed up they dont look torqued but when i turn left the wheel stops at about 1/4 turn and i have to really jam it and then it turns after hearing a jerk from underneath.. so i have got some problems.. anybody know anything because i dont know what to do.. dont think she would even be worth anything to sell anymore right?

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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2009, 07:43:47 AM »
Check the panhard rod and the drag link. One of them might be bent so bad, it's hitting the axle tube, and keeping you from being able to turn. Remember the pics of how badly I bent mine when I replaced it with the RTE piece? I could only turn in one direction all the way, the other about half the way.
If you broke an axle; they're cheap to replace. You still have the stock 10 spline right? If so; you can get replacement stockers from any of the forums by listing a wanted post; people usually sell the stock ones for 10-20 bucks per side.
Good luck.
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2009, 09:32:25 PM »
Yea you most likely snapped an axle in thefront causeing tou to only have rwd. Easy wayto test is putthe front bumper on a tree. Get in put it indrive and have a freind look under the truck and see if the front drive shaft is spinning when you hit the gas causeing the back tires to spin. If the front drive shaft is spinning then you snappedand axle< very common and cheap to fix>Jack up the front and spin one wheel lisening for a clunk then spin the other side and listen for clunks. the side that clunks is the broken side.
 
Now for the steering DAP sell a great kit for 198 for both steering rods and new tie rod ends .
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2009, 08:50:22 AM »
you probably broke a CV which is why you can't steer without effort. Your trying to make paste out of metal.

If you get it apart give me a shout if you need bits as I have a ishatpile of 10 spline junk.
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2009, 06:14:40 PM »
You got it up to Hopkinton fairgrounds today!   Did you fix the issue?  What was the problem?
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2009, 11:58:58 PM »
the steering issues are only sometimes i have to give it a hard jerk to turn it and it clanks past the turn other times its fine.. very temperamental i still drive it every day i have no choice its my daily driver just cant go wheeling until the front tires get some moment back.. also i can here metal being tossed around in my axle sometimes it grinds than pops out and is just a light dinging on top of it all i dont know how to fix all of this in one sitting which it must be done in.. so help may be needed before the operation driving it like this cant be good but it must do untill i know how to fix it. p.s thanks for the spot! but no not fixed just fighting though the pain

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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2009, 06:00:31 AM »
you have either a broken axle rod or your diff is missing some teeth.  As far as the steering, it maybe a new box you need!
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2009, 07:10:17 AM »
like I said earlier.....you probably have a broken CV which will effect both the drivetrain and the steering and you should not be driving it because eventually it will either lock the front wheel up or lock the steering up. Dangerous.
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2009, 11:05:37 AM »
OK Ethan!    Park it.   When Matt says DANGEROUS, you listen!
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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2009, 01:10:48 PM »
Ethan it is really hard to steer with one front wheel locked, been there after a visit to the rock garden at my house one day. haha

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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2009, 08:47:24 PM »
i have just started my rangie for the first time in a wile i took all your advise and parked her but now its time to fix! she ran fine needs new sparks though, anyways when i went to start her a second time after running for 20 min or so the bat was completely dead.. something must be shorting out yes? i will probably bring her into the shop for that problem but forrest- if your home and willing would you be interested in working on her with me or something i do not have the tools or experience to figure out the axle and steering myself.. ill buy what ever i need to i just cant drive her around with 8 inches of play in my steering wheel thats my biggest problem.. and the shorting out axle not such a big deal thanks everyone for the help and warnings ha

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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2009, 09:27:33 AM »
p.s i dont have a cv joint i have the ball swivel if thats the part you meant that could be broken. thanks!

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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2009, 11:21:57 AM »
Your CV is in that swivel housing. I'd pick up a used one from a forum member if possible.

I'd recommend spraying all of the hardware w/ a penetrant like PB Blaster once a day for about 3 days and start working on it. It's not overly complicated, but will be time consuming the first time you do it.

Here's some info:

http://www.landroversonly.com/forums/f52/d1-rrc-defender-cv-joint-replacement-16379/

You can do it!

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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2009, 11:03:45 PM »
Yea honestly Ethan it should take ya about 20-30min once you get the tire jacked up and off to get the whole side stripped down and cv out. It super easy!!! Dont over think it!! And dont be scared!!! just nuts and bolts man!! Do it upand post some pics!
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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2009, 07:22:17 AM »
Ethan; to be on the safe side; pick up a Chilton or Haynes manual. Or if you can find one on fleabay, the factory workshop manuals. You can do it all yourself, but you should start with a basic understanding and knowledge of what goes where, and what you're up against. Good luck.
2002 LR DII SE Kalahari Edition. 4.6, locking CDL, and Detroits.
1994 LR RRC LWB. EAS conversion w/ +2" springs.
1968 LR SIIA 88" Hybrid, with 109" 1 ton axles SOA. Needs Tartis for completion.

1979 LR SIII 5 door 109 SW, 11 seater. Sold, 09'.
1997 Disco I Bobtailed buggy conversion. Sold, 11'.